Questions answered:

Nanna asks:
When searching for a species or just checking for interest's sake, I would like to see all the species in a family, but if there are many - like over a 1000 - I can't see them all...and I really, really want to!
How can I see them?

Linda asks:
I would love to know for the City Nature Challenge or The Great Southern Bioblitz which species I was the only one to contribute. But if I look at the list it shows only the top 1000 species, which is about 5-6 observations, and I need to get into those with only 1 observation to find out.
How can I find my unique contributions?

Posted on 07 de outubro de 2020, 04:56 PM by tonyrebelo tonyrebelo

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Answers coming soon!!

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

Seeing all the species in a family

The explore page only shows 500 species, so if there are more, you wont see them all: Let us take the Fabcaeae - the Pea Family
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=113055&subview=grid&taxon_id=47122&view=species

But there is another issue: it only shows what is on iNaturalist - species not observed are not included. And you cannot see beyond the first 500. And you only have one view: most to least.

Better is to use the Checklist.
You need to decide on your area, and then go to the checklist page: so for southern Africa:
https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List

and then from there you can select your family by entering in the "type taxon name" box in the right hand filter, like so:
https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List?q=&view=photo&taxon=47122

Like the explore page, you dont get to choose the order: the order here is "taxonomic" and is a listing by family, subfamily, tribe, subtribe, genus and species in alphabetical order at the highest ranking. This has the advantage that the most similar species are grouped together to some degree. The photo view gives the best view picture-wise.
Note that you have several alternative views:

the plain view is best if you are quickly scanning and know the names. - (https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List?taxon=47122&view=plain)
the photo view is for exploring what the plants look like
the taxonomical view is for understanding the sequence of the other two, and shows the taxonomical rankings which underpins the order. - (https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List?taxon=47122&view=taxonomic)

At any stage you can reselect the group: for instance to see the old genus Acacia and allies:
https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List?taxon=373578&view=taxonomic

You can also play with the filter bank and see all species and subspecies of threatened peas:
https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/664678-Southern-Africa-Check-List?q=&view=taxonomic&taxon=373578&threatened=t&rank=leaves&commit=Filter
or perhaps you will prefer to see the aliens:

but that wont work, because the aliens are specified by country: so use the South African checklist
https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/7324-South-Africa-Check-List?commit=Filter&establishment_means=introduced&taxon=373578

I hope that this answers your question.
Like any tool you will have to play around and get familiar with the layout, restrictions, filters and options.

Now if what you really wanted was more of a fieldguide, then you will need to attend a course on making fieldguides, or figure it out yourself.
For instance, this guide to the grasses of the Cape Peninsula took ten minutes to make:
https://www.inaturalist.org/guides/7873?view=card
but it is not very good: with a lot more work one can get a better product like:
https://www.inaturalist.org/guides/7827?view=card

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

Unique species in a list

Again, this is not something you can do on the explore page. And it is not something you can do with any of the available options.
For instance if you are interested in knowing what you contributed unique to the the Great Southern Bioblitz, you can filter it:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&subview=grid&view=species
But the order is descending, and with over 2000 species, only the first 1000 are shown, and you are really interested in the tail end.
You can partly solve the problem, but doing it group by group: So let us take the vertebrates: Yes there are only 250 species so you can go to the end and find the species seen only once, and see if you can remember what you saw. Two problems: it is an iconic image - not yours - so you wont recognize the photo, and there is no other way to see who submitted it.

If you added your name to the filter, then it wont tell you how many were seen in the bioblizt, so you will still be in the dark.

However, there is a toolbox behind iNaturalist that you can use, and so we will use the "Compare Toolbox"
The reason it is not on the menus is that it is experimental, and is not so easy to use, and has some quirks. The most important quirk is that it is limited to 500 taxa. so for the Great Southern Bioblitz 2020, you will need to do this at least four times. But perhaps you are not interested in everything, just some things.
But here goes:
here is the tool: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/compare
Note in this case that there are two lists or queries that we will compre
Now to get it to work, we need to add some filters.
The easiest way is to use the Explore to construct our filter.
Now the first query is the total list for the Bioblitz for southern Africa, but we know there are 2350 taxa, so we need to narrow it down. Let us take the vertebrates.
so query 1 which we will call Total Bioblitz looks like this:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&subview=grid&taxon_id=355675
in the url bar (I copied it here for the link!!) select the text after the question mark and add it in the box after year 1: like so:
"place_id=any&project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&subview=grid&taxon_id=355675"
Now we need to create the explore filters for your data, which we will call "Linda's list" which looks like this:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&subview=grid&taxon_id=355675&user_id=lindalakeside&view=species
so we need:
"place_id=any&project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&subview=grid&taxon_id=355675&user_id=lindalakeside&view=species"
and for fun I will include my own list (tony's list):
"project_id=great-southern-bioblitz-2020-cape-town&taxon_id=355675&user_id=tonyrebelo"

With those pasted in the boxes, we get (yes it is horrible, just click on it):
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/compare?s=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

Note the three lines on top with our filters.
and then the table below, with the species names, followed by the totals in our three lists.
Note that the unique values are shown in yellow, and neither Linda nor I saw any species that were not in the total: of course not!! The total includes our lists.
Note you want the "Species" view with "totals" (dont press the map it will freeze), and
On the header of the columns, you can sort the columns. Play with them.

So what are we looking for: we want to see which total numbers in Linda's list equals the total list: that will be her unique contribution.
so fiddling with sorting the columns you can quickly see that Lindaw contributed all the records of:

Rufous-breasted Sparrowhawk Accipiter rufiventris
Mallard × Yellow-billed Duck Anas platyrhynchos × undulata

(cont ...)

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

Unique species in a list cont ....

You dont have to just do taxa: for instance if we add marine, you can see the Linda contributed little and Peter a lot:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/compare?s=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

And I will be using it to see how we compared between the challenge and the bioblitz:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/compare?s=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%3D%3D

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

The Garden Route needs a fieldguide course Tony, please. Could a webinar work?

Publicado por sandraf mais de 3 anos antes

Yes!! - email me.

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

Thanks again for a great event - we will surely take part again if anything comes up.
We enjoyed it very much.
Just a couple of of quick questions please if I may:

for myself who want to get to know the flowers/plants, there are still a few of my observations that still needs identification, or will I have to let that go?
where can I find the Afrikaans common names of the flowers? For instance the Genus Roepera? What is it actually called? Or Stars? Is it just Stars/Sterretjie?
when we started with the Bioblitz I bought a book "Flowers of the Cape Peninsula, it did not help much, many of the ones I identified through the book was marked as errors and many I could not find? What book would you recommend?
Thanks,
Elize

Publicado por elizetheron mais de 3 anos antes

Q: Identifications. What about my outstanding ones?

Ans: The easy identifications are probably all done. The others will only be identified when an expert, specialist or fanatic visits the area. So whereas you can expect half to three quarters of your observations to be identified within hours to a day, those last few are going to take much longer. Just hand in there. When identified they will be available on your dashboard for your perusal when you next visit the site.

If there are any that you dearly would love an ID for, then - provided that you have a family or genus level ID, you can look under the people who have made most identifications, and call them to help. So the call is done with an @ name - like this - @elizetheron - but please dont overuse it.

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

Where can I find the Afrikaans common names of the flowers?
In theory, our common names should have been loaded onto iNaturalist. But with legal hassles of becoming a community it has not happened yet. But it is coming.
You have two choices:

If you only want Afrikaans names, then in your profile select language Afrikaans. But then you wont get English names, and with most Afrikaans names not yet loaded, that would be premature. You can also selct if you want the common names listed first, or after the scientific name or switched off.
If you click on the ID bar on your observations (any ID bar: at the top, on the side, or where an ID has been made), it will open the species page. On the "taxonomy" tab of the species page is a summary of all the scientific and common names used for the species. The Afrikaans names will be listed alongside the language, and ditto all the other languages that have names.

And there is a third option.

When you make an ID, try typing in the common name you know: iNat will find matches for you if they are in its dictionary - I find for quite a few species I know the common name better than the Latin, and I just use that instead.

Note though: as a rule - the Afrikaans names are generic or for groups. Many of the rarer species do not have Afrikaans names.

You can get very sophisticated if you like, but you need to learn your way around the site first:

https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/560273-Roepera (go to the taxonomy tab)
or https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=113055&subview=grid&taxon_id=560273&view=species

Publicado por tonyrebelo mais de 3 anos antes

@sallyslak
Field Guide options for your grasses & links in your iNat inbox - easier to access. This is a bit buried

Publicado por sandraf mais de 3 anos antes

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